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Indian Saints

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Hindu saints and guru`s why are they brought here what is their purpose? Let consider for exampl an individual is born and has the gift/capability of being able to mediate and view other dimensions, however when this is done a connection through the "greater consciousness connect his mind with everyone elses" but no one helps because doing so would perhaps lets consider the negative or worse case scenario that in helping him with expressing this capability would be too disruptive and so this indvidual becomes popular and targeted by main stream commericialism. BUT WE MUST RELATE TO SUCH AN INDVIDIUAL WHETHER THIS CAPAIBILITY WAS NATURAL OR THE INFLUENCE OF OTHER GURU`S THAT HAVE CAUSED THIS ABILITY WITHIN HIM . Pain and torment is the way he is related to as when he goes into these dimensions to learn more about this through meditation his thoughts are heard and lets expand here that when he dreams he enters different dimensions (as deep sleep is a form of mediation - is it not) all what he thinks is heard and studied. Psychologists and others that have interests in the working of the mind have their opinions and clasify him with psychosis, schizophrenia as states of lucid dreaming when he enters such states. But none can explain why his thoughts are heard. Doctors may even force to have him sectioned, studied so that psychology and psychiatry can give an answer and identify with him.
That being said the main stream media and commercial markets capitalize on him and use his personlity traits as leverage for personal gain and the he recognises this and gradually learns what is going on as painful as this is and psychologically damaging as this is.

In Jainism i think i am right in saying that we our soul/mind comes from Ram/Vishnu, but based on cause and effect there must be an intellegent action which was either inborn in him from a previous life or some reason for Ram/Vishnu to bring him here. Or as mentioned it is the cause of other Guru`s creating this ability in him for what ever reason (meaning it was neither Ram nor Karma.....
That being said we have to set asside the unspoken/unknown truth and acknowledge what is commonly known by him and everyone elese and respond accordingly, as only only these responses can be challenged for now.
Karmic action`s have been recognised in many other guru`s ans saints in Hinduism in recent times and they have been treated with the ut most respect where they learn to express the meaning of such divine (or what appears to be divine, as this gift may have been instilled by other guru`s)

That being said my original question still remains, in that how wrong would you view their behaviour and response? For other knowledgable guru`s and saints who meditate and lets say that they can also enter multiple dimensions, and they could be the guide he needs all remain silent and do not help even when he seeks this advice and support he is turned awy and sent around in circles?

Many Thanks J singh
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Jsingh wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:12 pm In Jainism i think i am right in saying that we our soul/mind comes from Ram/Vishnu, but based on cause and effect there must be an intellegent action which was either inborn in him from a previous life or some reason for Ram/Vishnu to bring him here.
I don't think so, that is not my understanding of Jainism. In Jainism it is said the beings and souls are from beginningless time. It is very similar to Buddhism, being basically non-theistic, except for the devas, heavenly beings.

What you wrote sounds more like from Hinduism.
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Jsingh wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:12 pm Hindu saints and guru`s why are they brought here what is their purpose? Let consider for exampl an individual is born and has the gift/capability of being able to mediate and view other dimensions, however when this is done a connection through the "greater consciousness connect his mind with everyone elses" but no one helps because doing so would perhaps lets consider the negative or worse case scenario that in helping him with expressing this capability would be too disruptive and so this indvidual becomes popular and targeted by main stream commericialism. BUT WE MUST RELATE TO SUCH AN INDVIDIUAL WHETHER THIS CAPAIBILITY WAS NATURAL OR THE INFLUENCE OF OTHER GURU`S THAT HAVE CAUSED THIS ABILITY WITHIN HIM . Pain and torment is the way he is related to as when he goes into these dimensions to learn more about this through meditation his thoughts are heard and lets expand here that when he dreams he enters different dimensions (as deep sleep is a form of mediation - is it not) all what he thinks is heard and studied. Psychologists and others that have interests in the working of the mind have their opinions and clasify him with psychosis, schizophrenia as states of lucid dreaming when he enters such states. But none can explain why his thoughts are heard. Doctors may even force to have him sectioned, studied so that psychology and psychiatry can give an answer and identify with him.
That being said the main stream media and commercial markets capitalize on him and use his personlity traits as leverage for personal gain and the he recognises this and gradually learns what is going on as painful as this is and psychologically damaging as this is.

In Jainism i think i am right in saying that we our soul/mind comes from Ram/Vishnu, but based on cause and effect there must be an intellegent action which was either inborn in him from a previous life or some reason for Ram/Vishnu to bring him here. Or as mentioned it is the cause of other Guru`s creating this ability in him for what ever reason (meaning it was neither Ram nor Karma.....
That being said we have to set asside the unspoken/unknown truth and acknowledge what is commonly known by him and everyone elese and respond accordingly, as only only these responses can be challenged for now.
Karmic action`s have been recognised in many other guru`s ans saints in Hinduism in recent times and they have been treated with the ut most respect where they learn to express the meaning of such divine (or what appears to be divine, as this gift may have been instilled by other guru`s)

That being said my original question still remains, in that how wrong would you view their behaviour and response? For other knowledgable guru`s and saints who meditate and lets say that they can also enter multiple dimensions, and they could be the guide he needs all remain silent and do not help even when he seeks this advice and support he is turned awy and sent around in circles?

Many Thanks J singh
I think what you're discussing sounds like Hindu beliefs, for example Vishnu and Ram are not part of Jain beliefs. To my understanding Jain Dharma is non-theistic.
One should become the master of one's mind rather than let one's mind master oneself.
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