Zoroastrianism

Kabbalah, Sufism, Gnosticism and other forms of mysticism rooted in Christianity, Judaism, Islam
Post Reply
User avatar
DNS
Site Admin
Posts: 5634
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:36 pm
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, Estados Unidos de América
Contact:

Zoroastrianism

Post by DNS »

User avatar
Nicholas
Posts: 2081
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:21 pm
Location: California

Re: Zoroastrianism

Post by Nicholas »

Here are West's notes on the following four verses.
YASNA 28

The poem follows the form of a traditional supplication to gods,
reverently uttered with hands upraised, to come into the worshipper’s
presence and give assistance.

(1) Zoroaster prays for supportive intervention from above.
As its primary source he emphasizes the Positive Will, that is,
the impulse that chooses good over evil (cf. Yasna 30 and 45 for
the significance of the Positive Will). Within this opening stanza
he mentions all three of his favourite divine entities, the Mindful
One, Right, and Good Thought. He prays for an intervention that
will make it possible to fulfil what Good Thought, in its wisdom,
requires for the alleviation of the cow’s distress; to understand
what this refers to one must read the following poem, Yasna 29.

(2–4) Zoroaster affirms his devotion to the three entities,
holding that their power in the world is increased by human
piety (3), and that goodness (born of good thought) is rewarded
and badness punished (4). But at present he is looking for material
as well as spiritual benefit: a change of circumstances that will
give him and his followers the status they want (2).
First Gatha begins...
28.1
I pray You all in reverence with outstretched hands for his help –
the Bounteous Will’s in first place, Mindful One, with Right –
through action
by which Thou wouldst satisfy Good Thought’s wisdom and the
cow’s soul:
2
I who will approach You, Mindful Lord, with good thought,
to give me of both existences, the material one and that of
thought,
those blessings in line with Right by which one could keep one’s
supporters in well-being;
3
I who will hymn You, Right and Good Thought, as never before
and the Mindful Lord, You whose unimpaired dominion also
is increased by Piety: come to my calls to give help.
4
I who have taken my soul in mind for praise-song together with
Good Thought,
and knowing the Mindful Lord’s repayments for actions,
so long as I have the ability and strength, will look out in search
of Right.
From M.L. West's 2010 translation, Hymns of Zoroaster.
Truth is against the stream of common thought, deep, subtle, difficult, delicate, unseen by passion’s slaves cloaked in the murk of ignorance. Vipassī Buddha
User avatar
Nicholas
Posts: 2081
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:21 pm
Location: California

Re: Zoroastrianism

Post by Nicholas »

Morals & ethics of this old Path. Also a link to a PDF version in upper right:

https://universaltheosophy.com/legacy/w ... an-morals/
Truth is against the stream of common thought, deep, subtle, difficult, delicate, unseen by passion’s slaves cloaked in the murk of ignorance. Vipassī Buddha
Ajay0
Posts: 121
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:30 am

Re: Zoroastrianism

Post by Ajay0 »

Zoroastrians are a microscopic minority in India, numbering around just 70000. But they have done leonine service to the country in the economic, social, political, cultural and spiritual spheres. In this regard, they are like the minority Jews who had similarly settled in India and are noted for their potent contributions to the country in many aspects.

Dadabhai Naoroji was a great Indian Zoroastrian scholar, trader, and politician whose book 'Poverty and Un-British Rule in India' brought attention to his theory of the Indian "wealth drain" into Britain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dadabhai_Naoroji

Dadabhai Naoroji was honored with the sobriquet of ' the grand old man of India' and was held in great esteem by the likes of Gandhi.

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wrote to Naoroji in 1894, saying, "The Indians look up to you as children to the father. Such is really the feeling here."

The enlightened master Meher Baba, who followed a synchretism of Vedanta and Sufism, was of Zoroastrian origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba

Meher Baba is known for his work amongst the Masts, people who seemed outwardly irrational or insane, but were actually spiritually elevated people intoxicated with love of God. He worked for their further spiritual development and helped to create awareness in society of their advanced spiritual state, and reduced fears and prejudiced attitudes towards them.

Image
Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1

If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the mind. ~ Rajini Menon
User avatar
Nicholas
Posts: 2081
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:21 pm
Location: California

Re: Zoroastrianism

Post by Nicholas »

Like conventional Judaism & Christianity, which deny rebirth, so do the Zartushtri priests. However, mystic Kabbalists & Xtians do accept rebirth as a fact. Similarly in Zoroastrianism.

Here are the arguments from their scriptures & some Zartushtri Sages supporting reincarnation:

https://parsi-times.com/2016/08/is-ther ... strianism/
Truth is against the stream of common thought, deep, subtle, difficult, delicate, unseen by passion’s slaves cloaked in the murk of ignorance. Vipassī Buddha
User avatar
Lotodelsol
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:49 pm

Re: Zoroastrianism

Post by Lotodelsol »

Nicholas wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:52 pm Like conventional Judaism & Christianity, which deny rebirth, so do the Zartushtri priests. However, mystic Kabbalists & Xtians do accept rebirth as a fact. Similarly in Zoroastrianism.

Here are the arguments from their scriptures & some Zartushtri Sages supporting reincarnation:

https://parsi-times.com/2016/08/is-ther ... strianism/
Very interesting, thank you
One should become the master of one's mind rather than let one's mind master oneself.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests